So Bon Appetit Started Uploading Again... | Stream Highlights

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A change of pace from my regular content! To check out my regular streams, follow over at www.twitch.tv/lacksaint
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The Collapse of Bon Appetit - amworlds.info/town/gYW7XYzEuNhvspA/video.html
Cultural Gen0c1d3: A Response - amworlds.info/town/lYjLgmndzdWcuoQ/video.html
Every time Sohla shared her expertise and Bon Appétit didn’t pay her - amworlds.info/town/g4LTcoWyk71wzIw/video.html
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0:00 INTRODUCTION
3:05 VIDEO 1: WHY WE JOINED BON APPETIT
10:50 VIDEO 2: CHRIS MAKES MEATBALLS
18:15 VIDEO 3: CHRISSY MAKES OYSTER MUSHROOMS
25:35 CLOSING THOUGHTS
28:25 OUTRO

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  • Not my usual content! Hope you all enjoy this temporary change of pace. ADDENDUM: at over 4500 viewers at points during the stream it was quite a lively chat and while most chatters were extremely nice and helpful, on more than a few occasions while editing I saw messages that absolutely do not reflect my own viewpoints on what was discussed. In particular, I felt Chrissy raised some excellent issues during her own video and am a little disgusted by some viewers questioning her authenticity or asserting it wasn't 'appropriate' for her to bring up. If I do any content like this again I'll probably just hide chat to be safe, but I felt that was important to underline here. Thanks again for watching! PATREON: www.patreon.com/jacksaint TWITTER: twitter.com/LackingSaint TWITCH: www.twitch.tv/lacksaint REDDIT: www.reddit.com/r/jacksaint STORE: www.teepublic.com/stores/jack-saint-store COMMUNITY: discord.gg/6qsn2KK

    Jack SaintJack SaintԱմիս առաջ
    • Just posted a comment on Chris's video about how BA is using his goodwill for salvaging the situation.

      Mitesh PatelMitesh PatelԱմիս առաջ
    • Probably the smartest move banish ever did to bring her on. Such a good fucking idea especially when she just lost or left a job and he can get a lot of her time to develop that relationship

      Monkeyman12534Monkeyman12534Ամիս առաջ
    • Hey so, if I was one of those people, I’m sorry. I felt it was extremely unreasonable for a new creator to be expected to cover the very fraught history of fried chicken on her first video, which puts so much stress and makes her do so much more legwork about the history and cultural context of the food (especially compare to Chris’s meatballs). While the editors can lean back and snap their fingers. One of the other complaints from OG BA creators was that brown creators where supposed to represent the food “of their culture,” even if they wanted to do different types of cuisine, and the white creators had free reign to do whatever they wanted. This was a common complaint among the staff, and the fact that a black woman is expected to “stick to her lane,” even if she was furthering the conversation really well, was such ... such a bad move in the opposite direction of what they complained about. It’s pure tokenism. Of course I understand that such a knee jerk reaction doesn’t come across well in a live chat, but it was really abhorrent to me. Chrissy knocked it out of the park, handled the topic responsibility, but she should have NEVER been put in that situation.

      DoubtlesslyDoubtlesslyԱմիս առաջ
    • Wasn't Epicurious also on apart of it? They've been uploading videos and been back for longer.

      ZarslaZarslaԱմիս առաջ
    • @Hitman Grim not defending BA in any way whatsoever, but they did have some content with North African recipes by someone with North African heritage, but not a whole lot.

      Megan BMegan BԱմիս առաջ
  • Conde Nast? More like Conde Nasty

    First Name Last NameFirst Name Last NameՕր առաջ
  • BA is racist and anybody still working there is racist.

    Who CaresWho Cares2 օր առաջ
  • (the videos) don't make you mad, they just make you really uncomfortable... and hungry.

    Bionic GhostBionic Ghost6 օր առաջ
  • I’m a cishet white woman, and I’ll be honest, if they had ACTUALLY put out a ton of videos about food I’d never heard of or experienced before, I still would have clicked just as fast to watch their latest video. I would have been excited by new faces and/or new cuisines to discover amidst their other content. That’s the kind of stuff I love watching, and I would have been excited to see BATK staff explore that in a genuine way. There’s a DRASTIC under-representation of non-Western cuisines (except for maybe certain Asian cuisines) in the western world as a whole, especially on social media. Not only did they treat their BIPOC staff horribly, but they lost out on a huge opportunity to bring culinary diversity to millions of people who may not have otherwise sought it out.

    princessbubblegumprincessbubblegum8 օր առաջ
  • Chris looks like he's been hitting the meth

    Things and StuffThings and Stuff9 օր առաջ
  • I haven't watched any episodes since then. Still haven't watched any of the new content either

    JJ LodJJ Lod9 օր առաջ
  • Hi dustyajs

    Rukyura MykyRukyura Myky12 օր առաջ
  • Wait, you thought they were diverse before everything went down?

    Jonas HernandezJonas Hernandez13 օր առաջ
  • "we're just trying to create a homogeneous mixture" yeah Chris that's what got you into this mess (sorry, I couldn't resist)

    shulamithbondshulamithbond14 օր առաջ
  • i dont even go here

    im19ice3im19ice314 օր առաջ
  • Ah yes, the black woman making collard greens and cornbread as her first video

    Nick WNick W14 օր առաջ
  • I'm not racist, I have black friends. Look how my multi ethnic black friends say I'm not racist too

    Nick WNick W14 օր առաջ
  • Honestly just tell me where Claire will be. That’s all I care about.

    Rose LeeRose Lee15 օր առաջ
  • There's also a clear racist pattern in the likes and views of ALL BA's videos. Take a look at their channel and see how the content created by POC is received by the subscribers. You're not going to change the exploitive nature of corporations, but you certainly can influence the viewers' mentality towards their own racist behaviors.

    SOUZADASILVASOUZADASILVA17 օր առաջ
  • I would love to see another video like this related to Food52's interactions with Sohla, Rick, and Hawa, as well as Sohla's show on Babbish's channel, and Priya's segments on NYT Cooking. Did they capture the BATK look and feel? Or is there still a dead body in the room?

    Duy NguyenDuy Nguyen17 օր առաջ
  • The food looks good, but all that corporate bullshit speak actually makes me wanna vomit.

    bunnybreakerbunnybreaker19 օր առաջ
  • I’m just confused as to why they thought hiring PoC and then having them make a video addressing past controversies (that they weren’t involved in) was a good idea. Umm they should have never had to address this. The people who were in on the bs should have addressed it.

    Mariah JohnsonMariah Johnson20 օր առաջ
  • When Chris said "brown town"

    nicole lrnicole lr20 օր առաջ
  • Explains why Brad is never on Binging on Babish. He is part of the problem.

    inönuinönu20 օր առաջ
  • I actually ended up enjoying this vid more than I was initially expecting. I kind of like the lightly-edited stream "off the cuff" vibe.

    taliag09taliag0921 օր առաջ
  • Companies are here to make money you would be surprised how few people get that

    Starwarsdude8221991Starwarsdude822199123 օր առաջ
  • 19:03 - 19:10 What a great stoic white man face. I chuckled at the comment and looked over at you, and you got the deadass face on. Good times. It's like cracking a joke that has the n word in it, and the white friend looking serious as fuck.

    Drebin CoDrebin Co23 օր առաջ
  • You can really tell that the crew are different.

    Wirewolf616Wirewolf61623 օր առաջ
  • Anyone who is still subbed to BA is a POS and can go f them selves.

    Chilli InsanityChilli Insanity23 օր առաջ
  • Jack: talking about predatory and racist business practice and how it manifested itself in Condé Nast and Bon Appetít Some dude in chat: Yes, FNAF 3 has a lot of jumpscares.

    laundrybasketlaundrybasket23 օր առաջ
  • USA hat lol

    St. MixaSt. Mixa24 օր առաջ
  • as a asian POC, i love how you are talking about this issue very well!!!! thank you so much

    u140550u14055024 օր առաջ
  • This is the big awkward

    Kenny FriersonKenny Frierson24 օր առաջ
  • Your WHOLE chat was cringing at what she said but its true. If you feel uncomfortable listening to what Chrissy is saying then thats the point. I don't understand why they were so appalled at the story she told. Someone said "her ancestors are cringing" wtf

    Dezz JaXoNDezz JaXoN25 օր առաջ
  • Watching the video clips is so fucking awkward, like living for your commentary but ooo its rough to get to it

    Anna KepesAnna Kepes25 օր առաջ
  • Well they did have a slight issue with showing different non white recipies and cooking. So new diversity is an improvement

    Carter ToroCarter Toro25 օր առաջ
  • Whhaaaaatttt?! Jack isn't in 144p anymore?! UNSUBSCRIBE

    Sean LaMontagneSean LaMontagne25 օր առաջ
  • 22:17 i forgot that his exact words were "MY african american" 😬

    alison barkeralison barker25 օր առաջ
  • sounds like you are ctriticizing these poc white boy.

    Peet KyPeet Ky27 օր առաջ
  • don't see jack out there helping anyone poor or underprivileged, just blabbing about it. giving any free healthcare to poc? helping any poc with groceries? helping homeless to get car running? jack aint poc rather pos

    Peet KyPeet Ky27 օր առաջ
  • This is like a microcosm of how the election in America is playing out. Trump is Rapaport and everyone thinks that getting rid of him will make everything clean and fair without acknowledging the deeper systemic root of the many problems were facing

    Nathan YanceyNathan Yancey27 օր առաջ
  • It feels so forced when they talk about the issues in the company. Like they won't face it directly but rather make general, wide conversation topics to discuss, won't even come out and say "hey, we messed up. We'll try to make it better." Feels so awkward

    DevilsTrueLiesDevilsTrueLies27 օր առաջ
  • I can’t help but feel that the CEO of BA is pandering!

    Catherine CampbellCatherine Campbell28 օր առաջ
  • So when he added background music to the Chris Morocco video it was SOOOOO much more tolerable.

    Trish MirandaTrish Miranda28 օր առաջ
  • I love how BA had policies and a way of mistreating their employees of color, and now they hire new people of color and the public wants to hear an apology or an explanation for the systemic racism of the company. How is that fair? The people of color in this video had absolutely nothing to do with BA's scandal. So don't watch ba's new videos with people of color and expect those people of color to say things to make you feel comfortable watching ba videos again. And it's a mistake to assume or imply that the new on camera talent aren't there because of their qualifications. The issues with BA needs to be addressed by the decision makers. Not the POC shown in this video.

    DeMon SpencerDeMon Spencer29 օր առաջ
  • gotta love constantly talking about having a conversation but never actually having the conversation

    Hakalakalaka0.9Hakalakalaka0.929 օր առաջ
    • Perhaps we could have a conversation about that. But first let's make some meatballs! Some hot... meaty BALLS... Mmmmh, yeahhh...

      captainautobotscaptainautobots27 օր առաջ
  • It is not BA's responsability to shine light on ethnic cuisine. As you said, they are a big capitalistic coorporation and their sole purpose being such a coorporation is to make money. If people are not watching videos that are explaining ethnic cuisine, they have no reason to make such videos. We can't blame bon appetit for playing the game of capitalism. Them treating their employees like shit and underpaying them is a whole nother problem but people need to understand that in a capitalistic world, we as the customers decide what is put out in the world and what's not. If you complain about factory farming and the horrific conditions farm animals are living in but you eat meat all day, you can't expect shit to change. Same thing with condé nast. If you haven't watched the videos, there is no point in complaining about them not being made as often. This is a problem of the capitalistic system in general and not a problem of one single company.

    TheDrumGuyTheDrumGuy29 օր առաջ
  • Take my sub. Here, just take it. Seriously.

    plain peppermintplain peppermint29 օր առաջ
  • This is the corporation trying to continue to capitalize off a format that has capitalizied off of white patriarchal privelege while trying to compensate for how white and patriarchal it is.

    Catherine CorneliusCatherine Cornelius29 օր առաջ
    • Chris likes Andy. It is both white and PATRIARCHAL. It makes me both mad and uncomfortable. I don't want to watch BA anymore, and I used to root for it to be better. Now I just keep waiting for BA to address the sh#t that happened. Chris is obviously horribly uncomfortable. I wonder why?

      Catherine CorneliusCatherine Cornelius29 օր առաջ
  • I watched the burger episode and I felt exactly like you did in this video and it was so affirming. Then I watched your review of the whole thing and you were spot on.

    Always Falling ShortAlways Falling Short29 օր առաջ
  • I've always got a bad feeling from Marcus Samuelsson, when he was on Worth It and the Off Menu podcast, he has a dead behind the eyes 'i'm-so-fun-guy' vibes, not surprised really that he would join this sort of thing Edit: Anyone remember on Worth It when Marcus just appeared and ate one of the hosts bit of chicken off of his plate? I'm not saying that proves he is evil but what the fuck? What sort of "lol I'm so random" energy ?!

    Rhea NathanRhea NathanԱմիս առաջ
  • SORRY WE DID AN INSTITUTIONAL RACISM ITS JUST BEEN ONE OF THOSE YEARS

    Rayce ArcherRayce ArcherԱմիս առաջ
  • Ok, of course they don't address the procedures that let all the stuff happen because the focus is not on diversity, is on profit, and acept whatrever that allow you to get more profit. Transparency and equaly wage is just one of the things we hope

    Daniel TrejosDaniel TrejosԱմիս առաջ
  • “And Chris Morocco [the director of the Test Kitchen] directly told me he didn’t like how quickly I moved up, so he wanted to make sure this person would never be allowed to develop recipes.” As she puts it, management didn’t want another “Sohla problem.” - Vulture, Going Sohla

    EdwinologyEdwinologyԱմիս առաջ
  • People being mean and snarky in the replies of the new videos, including the new POC cast, aren't as woke as they think they are

    emily harrisemily harrisԱմիս առաջ
  • “A lot of things happened..” Yeah! Say them! State all those things! “Were working together to move past this” PAST WHAT?! COULD YOU ELABORATE? “A lot of the injustices going on” *GOING ON BECAUSE OF WHO? WHO PERHAPS WAS ORCHESTRATING THAT, HMMM?* “We’re here to make sure everyone can be heard and cultures can be seen” *HOW MUCH IS EVERYONE GETTING PAAAAAIIIIIIDDD??????!!!!!!!!!!!* “Let’s make meatballs. 😊” *FUCK.*

    spiderdude2099spiderdude2099Ամիս առաջ
  • Quote from your last bon apetit video: “It won’t end with bon apetit going quiet before changing their name to “foodies” or “dish scrubs” and rebranding with a fun new cast of diverse likeable characters!” Bon apetit: *does quite literally that exact thing* Jack: “my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined...”

    spiderdude2099spiderdude2099Ամիս առաջ
  • Just another white guy using AMworlds to cash in on BLM, but now FOR A SECOND TIME!! It was disgusting the first time. Now its more so and DEEPLY obvious and disturbing. Actually interleaving video with the new staff with JACK looking like he is interviewing them. Hopefully we wont have to see this guy any more!!! QUIT RIPPING OFF BLM!!!!

    Robert OrrRobert OrrԱմիս առաջ
  • Watching this to find out what they’ve done without actually having to give them my view

    Sophie CampbellSophie CampbellԱմիս առաջ
  • i dont think british ppl will every understand how americans and american courps work/think and this video proves it. what hes trying to do is move on and not stay in the past. its just food, nothing else omg

    nensignensigԱմիս առաջ
  • I have those headphones! They suck, you should get better headphones

    Wesley KronmillerWesley KronmillerԱմիս առաջ
  • Wow. As usual well worth my time but holy shit your pronunciation of "water" in a USA accent is wild. We sound kinda weird. Thanks? :)

    Craig A. GlesnerCraig A. GlesnerԱմիս առաջ
  • If you feel your underpaid go work somewhere else...

    B - RockB - RockԱմիս առաջ
  • I am grateful you highlighted Chrissy's video. I had become so discouraged after watching Chris Morocco's video that I unsubscribed and chose not watch their videos again. In this particular case, I'll go back and watch it now.

    chromiumjadechromiumjadeԱմիս առաջ
  • fuck an A, I worked in retail for about 20yrs, and this shit was like one of the countless "The company did record profits this year! but fuck off if you think we'll pay you more." meetings. the term 'lip service' isn't the right term, but it's living on the same street as the bullshit they're pulling.

    Maeve BarukMaeve BarukԱմիս առաջ
  • It's a channel about food , not a channel about politics. The second the channel becomes about that i'll just stop watching.

    MetathronosMetathronosԱմիս առաջ
  • damn... BA went from one of our favorite channels to 😔😔😔

    It's That Guy WesIt's That Guy WesԱմիս առաջ
  • curious to see where these chefs will go now, so far ive seen Sohla have her own segment in Babish Culinary Universe and Claire releasing her new book, i can only hope nothing but good for everyone else that resigned and are going their own paths

    BuddyBuddyԱմիս առաջ
  • Épic

    Qurt EhQurt EhԱմիս առաջ
  • and it put all the work and responsibility for educating others on their shoulders when it is not theirs to bare

    AJAJԱմիս առաջ
  • i wouldnt put myself through that bullshit personally, the only reason i'm sitting here looking at the hypocrisy is appreciation to u pal. looking forward to that space jam video.

    im19ice3im19ice3Ամիս առաջ
  • comedy

    Yasteel LutchYasteel LutchԱմիս առաջ
  • The dude making meatballs said the word meatballs so many times it started to sound sexual

    Olivia Da GayOlivia Da GayԱմիս առաջ
  • Chris does not look healthy. It looks like the systemic issues are weighing deathly on his conscious. I hope he takes the professional risk (that I believe he wants to take) and either step down and leave BA in solidarity for his former co-workers, or step up and be truly pro-active in positive change.

    Charles FernandezCharles FernandezԱմիս առաջ
  • How is the Halloween photo a blackface? I mean it seams out of place in 2020 but not so much for what it seems 2005

    Yamil YamilYamil YamilԱմիս առաջ
  • They're kinda like union busters.

    Timothy KelleyTimothy KelleyԱմիս առաջ
  • "They couldn't find a single Black person who they thought was good enough to work in the Test Kitchen" ??? Really? This hurt cause at that point you might as well just say you don't want black people around but I find it hard to believe you couldn't find a black cook fuck outta here..

    Nate AnthonyNate AnthonyԱմիս առաջ
  • Feeling bad for the new chefs.

    LEADLEADԱմիս առաջ
  • Ok yes, but IS GABBY OKAY? She was the manager of the kitchen--was she ALSO slighted??

    Oops I Did it againOops I Did it againԱմիս առաջ
  • i fuckin love you and your stinkin ass content jack never stop making big funnies

    VizaarVizaarԱմիս առաջ
  • The comments in Chris' video are unsettlingly chipper too, heaping him with praise for being "brave." I tried to leave some comments about how problematic his brushing off the problem was but they were never posted by AMworlds (maybe Bon Appetit was deleting them somehow?) I also tried leaving links to Sohla's interview just so BA fans can get a clearer picture of what's actually happening, but those were removed as well. BA is blatantly trying to get past this with as little accountability as possible and it's very frustrating that even the freaking comments section have to be tampered now too. Anyway I'm glad you posted this video and I'm glad people here are more open to discourse!!

    15bunnies Scene15bunnies SceneԱմիս առաջ
  • I expected this to be Jack destroying the new bon appetit but I'm so glad we got that little rant against capitalism 😁

    Melanie AmideiMelanie AmideiԱմիս առաջ
  • It's like carl from llamas with hats. He doesn't see the problem 😂😂

    JelliBear 246JelliBear 246Ամիս առաջ
  • imo you hit the nail on the head in terms of fake wokeness and entities like these refusing to see issues like racism and sexism as systemic problems. it's the same tactic all those ~racism is in the past~ oscar-baity movies use: the false idea bigotry it's just a result of "a few bad apples" and not and unfortunately intended feature of the society in which we live. all it does is make people on the relevant axes of privilege in any given conversation feel better about themselves for not being cartoon villains without addressing the root of the problem.

    the fatimagicthe fatimagicԱմիս առաջ
  • The drop in their views alone is very telling of the fact that replacing their poc creators with other poc creators will not fix the problem like they it will.

    Cola the QueenCola the QueenԱմիս առաջ
  • this is just another fake woke Disney type of crap lmao. No thanks

    azixazixԱմիս առաջ
  • Is that Spyro music in the opening and ending?

    ChesterSnapChesterSnapԱմիս առաջ
  • I didn't think I could be disappointed with a yt channel chef but here I am.

    thekarategirlthekarategirlԱմիս առաջ
  • I mean BA is tanking peoples careers before they even start bringing new people in but not doing anything because fundamentally Chris basically just told you nothing has changed. Out of his mouth he says they have no answers. He is trying to say he wants to be a part of the movement forward but like... what movement? Everyone is gone and yall just didnt say anything. They talked like politicians

    Samantha GosnellSamantha GosnellԱմիս առաջ
  • conde nasty!

    Nora CalzognaNora CalzognaԱմիս առաջ
  • reading the twitch chat during the intro and "2 bon 2 appetit" is the best comment

    Joshua MoonJoshua MoonԱմիս առաջ
  • Did anyone else notice the music from Spyro in the beginning? Cool

    Elisabeth KirmeElisabeth KirmeԱմիս առաջ
  • Thanks for making this video! It means I can see what they’re doing without giving them any views. It’s shut that they really missed the mark. They had diversity, they didn’t need to hire new people, then just needed to pay their minority employees. It’s not hard

    Ally JAlly JԱմիս առաջ
  • Spyro music? 👂😂

    Pablo QuijanoPablo QuijanoԱմիս առաջ
  • I realized you weren’t American half way through the video

    SopitaSopitaԱմիս առաջ
  • The strategic scripting of these disturbs me to no end. I have no plans of going back to watching Bon Appetit.

    Salty PearlSalty PearlԱմիս առաջ
  • Lol watching jack almost implode with how uncomfortable he is in live action is the content I didn't know I needed lmao

    Jennifer GreenJennifer GreenԱմիս առաջ
  • Seems to me that the easy way out of this would have been to unionize.

    angerman147angerman147Ամիս առաջ
  • SCABS!!! All of them!!

    Morgan CollinsMorgan CollinsԱմիս առաջ
  • it's also so funny how right after they posted their intro video with the three new poc chefs, the second video they posted right after that was a white dude making meatballs. almost like their second priority after rebranding was establishing that they would still, in fact, be featuring the white chefs that were complicit in all this bullshit.

    Lili RoseLili RoseԱմիս առաջ
  • Anyone know where the rest of the BA crew that quit is? I found sohla on binging with babish

    Jahn DoughJahn DoughԱմիս առաջ
  • Capitalism breeds inequality by design.

    Kristi StuartKristi StuartԱմիս առաջ
  • More than uncomfortable - BA's comeback is insulting and disrespectful especially to those who were treated so appallingly. I will not be returning.

    Stuart MayesStuart MayesԱմիս առաջ
  • Isn't it also possible that everything feels deadbodyonthefloorish, because different people handle the cameras and the cut in an environment (physical - outside.) that is hard to manage? Not gonna say there isn't a dead body, but you'd interpret different things into movements and reactons that you'd see totally different depending on what information you have.

    RasalasRasalasԱմիս առաջ
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